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Post by PoorRichard (AKA - The Guido) on Oct 22, 2013 23:22:46 GMT -8
I felt that since Star Citizen hit $24 million 12 hours after the release of the Hornet variants, the commercial, and the Hornet's brochure, that you had to see the commercial. For your viewing pleasure...... The United Earth Empire's supreme keeper of peace, the galaxy's most glorious space superiority fighter: The Anvil Aerospace F7C Hornet, available to the general public.
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Post by wrexhammerhead on Oct 23, 2013 2:56:40 GMT -8
Holy chainguns batman! Those are what we need.
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Post by TSilver on Oct 23, 2013 5:51:56 GMT -8
Laser miniguns? In space? WTF kind of sense does that make?  |
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Post by PoorRichard (AKA - The Guido) on Oct 23, 2013 11:06:07 GMT -8
If you look closely when the miniguns are firing, casings are ejecting. Is it tracers we're seeing? Solid shot or lasers would help keep the barrels cool. Besides the point, THEY LOOK FRAKING AWESOME!!!
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Post by TSilver on Oct 23, 2013 11:12:16 GMT -8
If you look closely when the miniguns are firing, casings are ejecting. Is it tracers we're seeing? Solid shot or lasers would help keep the barrels cool. Besides the point, THEY LOOK FRAKING AWESOME!!! That's my point. If it's in space, the motion would do nothing to cool it, only increase the danger of component failure due to micro-sized impacts. Unless there were some media for the barrels to move through, they won't shed any extra heat, though possibly could generate more through frictional losses. |
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Post by magnifiscent on Oct 23, 2013 13:46:45 GMT -8
Every bit of the flying in that video was utter bullshit. Pure Anvil Aerospace propaganda. The first two missiles fail to track. The bandit fired multiple 3 round bursts that missed despite no evasive action on the part of the hornet; who is flying that thing? If I'd been throwing rocks out the passenger window, I could have hit that guy. The Bandit inexplicably crashes into an asteroid despite obviously having plenty of time to pull off or follow through a hole so large you could have driven a frigate through it. The second bandit (who waits for a nice 1v1 instead of engages 2v1 like a smart pilot) falls for, literally, the oldest trick in the book. That never works. That "hit the brakes and pull up" is for movies and people who want to die.
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Post by PoorRichard (AKA - The Guido) on Oct 23, 2013 13:51:13 GMT -8
I see your point, but think of it this way. The more rounds you put through a single barrel, the hotter it gets. With a Gatling gun, it's not so much the medium the barrel is traveling through that cools it, but the time between firings. Through your explanation, the barrel would never cool after firing. Space, though it's a vacuum, is very cold which in turn cools the barrels as they spin. The heat would dissipate almost instantly or at least very quickly. However, they're damn cool lookin.
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Post by PoorRichard (AKA - The Guido) on Oct 23, 2013 13:55:45 GMT -8
Every bit of the flying in that video was utter bullshit. Pure Anvil Aerospace propaganda. The first two missiles fail to track. The bandit fired multiple 3 round bursts that missed despite no evasive action on the part of the hornet; who is flying that thing? If I'd been throwing rocks out the passenger window, I could have hit that guy. The Bandit inexplicably crashes into an asteroid despite obviously having plenty of time to pull off or follow through a hole so large you could have driven a frigate through it. The second bandit (who waits for a nice 1v1 instead of engages 2v1 like a smart pilot) falls for, literally, the oldest trick in the book. That never works. That "hit the brakes and pull up" is for movies and people who want to die. And for commercials advertising products. Entertaining and memorable. Burn the Anvil Hornet into your mind and buy one today! (Base pledge package is Digital Colonel, $110). You know you wanna! |
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Post by magnifiscent on Oct 23, 2013 14:08:07 GMT -8
I see your point, but think of it this way. The more rounds you put through a single barrel, the hotter it gets. With a Gatling gun, it's not so much the medium the barrel is traveling through that cools it, but the time between firings. Through your explanation, the barrel would never cool after firing. Space, though it's a vacuum, is very cold which in turn cools the barrels as they spin. The heat would dissipate almost instantly or at least very quickly. However, they're damn cool lookin. Space isn't necessarily cold. Depending on direct sunlight, objects in orbit around earth can go from 240 C in the sun to -100 C in the shade. This has to do with radiation cooling. If the object (the gun barrel) emits more photons than it absorbs, it will cool. The gradiant difference determines the rate of cooling - the more star light or the closer to the star the object is, the slower it cools. Conduction would allow the weapon to cool faster. If the barrels were coated in conductive material and coupled to some sort of heat-sink, conduction could be used to dissipate the accumulated heat of firing; |
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Post by PoorRichard (AKA - The Guido) on Oct 23, 2013 14:56:26 GMT -8
That's just not as cool looking.... And good point about distance and facing regarding stars and the like. Just keep in mind that, in the end, it's a game. Sometimes cool factor outweighs reality.
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Post by TSilver on Oct 23, 2013 18:41:05 GMT -8
That's just not as cool looking.... And good point about distance and facing regarding stars and the like. Just keep in mind that, in the end, it's a game. Sometimes cool factor outweighs reality. Hold a tick. This is a game? What the did I sign up for, then? I just got done with my third tour of the Tau Ceti system. |
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Post by riggs on Oct 24, 2013 3:40:24 GMT -8
Here I'm going with the rule of cool for the commercial, but what if those spent "shells" absorbed the heat and are ejected immediately, that would actually reduce heat, and the rolling barrels give the momentum required to eject the "shell". I still think its something to look cool and doubt you'll actually see any of that in game.
Why the hell were you in Tau Ceti, the Hades Gamma cluster is where the real money is at.
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Post by PoorRichard (AKA - The Guido) on Oct 24, 2013 4:47:35 GMT -8
Riggs, that definitely explains the spent casings. It makes sense to just get rid of the heat in such a way. Also, I do want to say that they do have a cooling system in place for weapons and other systems. How it works, I'm not entirely sure, but there is a mechanic for cooling. I was running on 3 hours of sleep yesterday and was definitely not on my game. Great feedback though!
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Post by magnifiscent on Oct 24, 2013 7:31:50 GMT -8
That's just not as cool looking.... And good point about distance and facing regarding stars and the like. Just keep in mind that, in the end, it's a game. Sometimes cool factor outweighs reality. This is always the case, and rightly so. A real space game combat game would be more math problems and vector sums than pants-on-fire dog fighting. It's just my opinion that if you're going to dogfight in space, show me something I can't see on Earth. Edited can to can't cause wow that made no sense. |
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Post by tacosyeah on Oct 24, 2013 8:07:19 GMT -8
That's just not as cool looking.... And good point about distance and facing regarding stars and the like. Just keep in mind that, in the end, it's a game. Sometimes cool factor outweighs reality. This is always the case, and rightly so. A real space game combat game would be more math problems and vector sums than pants-on-fire dog fighting. It's just my opinion that if you're going to dogfight in space, show me something I can see on Earth. |
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Post by magnifiscent on Oct 24, 2013 10:23:02 GMT -8
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Post by TSilver on Oct 24, 2013 10:30:15 GMT -8
Riggs, that definitely explains the spent casings. It makes sense to just get rid of the heat in such a way. Also, I do want to say that they do have a cooling system in place for weapons and other systems. How it works, I'm not entirely sure, but there is a mechanic for cooling. I was running on 3 hours of sleep yesterday and was definitely not on my game. Great feedback though! Theoretically, the casings could be just that, casings, carrying enough fuel for a chemical dye laser pulse. Each round triggers, smashing the two chemicals together, energy pulse focuses through laser emitter, and case is ejected, making room for next shot |
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