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Post by Swatz on Oct 19, 2013 11:22:56 GMT -8
5 dorra good dear. I give you two four ten.
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Post by dclxvi on Oct 20, 2013 12:00:17 GMT -8
"Meesta meesta geev me choc-o-lotta!"
"No, it's Choc-lit."
"Choc-o-lotta!"
"Choc-lit."
"Choc-o-lotta!"
"Fuck it. Here's your CANDY you unattended stray child."
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Post by PoorRichard (AKA - The Guido) on Oct 20, 2013 17:45:30 GMT -8
Now to be fair, this is Dece: .... 1-35 AR is 1st Armor Division right? That range looks very familiar. Looks like Grafenwoehr. Spent too much time on those ranges..... Ahhh the memories of 1-77AR, 1st Infantry Division..... STEEL TIGERS!!!!
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Post by lupinscroll on Oct 21, 2013 19:47:59 GMT -8
Now to be fair, this is Dece: .... 1-35 AR is 1st Armor Division right? That range looks very familiar. Looks like Grafenwoehr. Spent too much time on those ranges..... Ahhh the memories of 1-77AR, 1st Infantry Division..... STEEL TIGERS!!!! Seems like its a lot harder to shoot something with a tank then it seemed imo.
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Post by PoorRichard (AKA - The Guido) on Oct 21, 2013 20:46:49 GMT -8
It's not as easy as it looks! And I believe all those were hits. The parallax and the target delay can play with your head a bit. Might've been one miss on one of the movers though. I'd have to rewatch it.
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Post by dclxvi on Oct 22, 2013 0:42:24 GMT -8
Actually quite easy to aim, the Cadillacs are smooth as hell. You're probably more likely to fail a Table 8 because your loader is slow as shit.
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Post by snoggy on Oct 22, 2013 1:42:41 GMT -8
Granted I did tables in a bradley.....
The most common failrs were shitty/new drivers and TC's that fumbled commands.
But yes, aiming is fairly easy, once you get used to the TIE fighter controls.
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Post by PoorRichard (AKA - The Guido) on Oct 22, 2013 5:14:09 GMT -8
Shame on you Snoggy. lol And dece, it's also good if you don't jerk the triggers and more often than not, you're fighting the tank. Between computer problems and a cheating platoon sergeant, we fell behind the point curve. Platoon sergeant got top tank in Europe, they didn't boresight the GAS (which cost us an engagement) and used the thermal sight instead. Our tank's computer issue was that it wasn't calculating the trajectory for HEAT correctly when we did the night run and we couldn't call for an alibi because the computer tests came up ok when the mechanics came by to verify. It failed 3/3 for us.... Damn tank was a bitch....Loved her though.
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Post by dclxvi on Oct 22, 2013 9:50:06 GMT -8
Shame on you Snoggy. lol And dece, it's also good if you don't jerk the triggers and more often than not, you're fighting the tank. Between computer problems and a cheating platoon sergeant, we fell behind the point curve. Platoon sergeant got top tank in Europe, they didn't boresight the GAS (which cost us an engagement) and used the thermal sight instead. Our tank's computer issue was that it wasn't calculating the trajectory for HEAT correctly when we did the night run and we couldn't call for an alibi because the computer tests came up ok when the mechanics came by to verify. It failed 3/3 for us.... Damn tank was a bitch....Loved her though. I did forget to add one method of failure, to have a TC that isn't an E7 or Captain. The higher up you go in the army, the more ferocious the circle jerk becomes.
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Post by cokepope on Oct 24, 2013 6:27:10 GMT -8
LOL NEVER HEARD THAT ONE. No but seriously, you don't know how hard it is... sometimes on my midnight shifts, youtube doesn't load. That's like hazardous duty pay right there. This is my job if anyone is interested www.airforce.com/careers/detail/airfield-management/Basically I just respond to emergencies, check the runway, do flight planning (because pilots really aren't that smart) and coordinate special air missions (Presidential, congressmen, generals, med-evacs ect.. and some odd things). However within the next few months hopefully I will be doing this www.gosere.com/ and you guys won't here from me again. wow really cool. have one question, does air force have drill instructor like Sgt. Hartman from FullMetalJacket movie? and did you do? Ha I wish, but no. Marines have most bad-ass drill instructors though. I wouldn't say the Air Force has soft ones, but there's a few you can't take seriously no matter how hard you try. My instructor let up on us about the 6th week. But there was one guy that was in charge of my instructor team that was bat-shit crazy... he was also in charge of other instructors and he would lay into them as well. I was in-charge of dorm guards, training and assigning them, I was teaching one guy what to do at the door. The bat-shit crazy TI walks up, just staring, all the sudden he punches the glass like full-force busting his knuckles yet showing no pain. The dorm guard screws up the procedures to let him. He uses his key to get in, needless to say we are both on our faces while he's also screaming at out TI. These odd acts of rage were common with this guy. He would smoke us for hours, creating swimming pools of sweat and mudslides when we were outside. The last night of BMT, we were bullshitting with our instructor, telling him some of the shit we got away with and he told us some of his insider stuff, like how it's all a game. Except, that bat-shit crazy instructor, our TI says something along the lines of "he's actually crazy, that wasn't a show... probably goes home and beats his wife and kids".
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Post by Atron on Oct 26, 2013 8:26:01 GMT -8
Ah the good ole nights of EC duty. You ever who give the guys who pissed you off the 0030 shift several nights in a row?
Never had a guy punch the window. We did have one female instructor who was like 5ft1 with the shrill voice of a banshee who would stand in front of the door and scream at us every time she walked by (she was in dorm above us).
I had the "honor" of being the War Skills & Education Monitor and Day Room Chief. Fun times... fun times..
Also, I think it was a requirement for Section Leaders to be complete assholes. Ours ripped into us when a guy missed 1 belt loop on our first day wearing blues.
Ever do 10 min of pushups in the rain while wearing blues all the while being screamed at for one guy missing a belt loop? I don't recommend it.
Still remember that fucker. TSgt. (now MSgt.) Innocenti (the irony was not lost on us).
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Post by lupinscroll on Oct 27, 2013 14:15:43 GMT -8
What is a tea table VIII? How do you fail to shoot a gun properly? Is there some kind of crazy process to shooting a tank? I must know!
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Post by dclxvi on Oct 27, 2013 21:35:13 GMT -8
What is a tea table VIII? How do you fail to shoot a gun properly? Is there some kind of crazy process to shooting a tank? I must know! Field manual for your standard cavalry gunnery: www.cavalrypilot.com/fm17-12/ch12.htmResearch report on M1A2 Abrams gunnery: www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a286186.pdfCrazy process indeed. The funny thing is it's really not effective practice or practical exercises, but almost designed with the expressed intent of instilling fear of failure from the strict penalty systems.
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Post by TSilver on Oct 27, 2013 21:43:52 GMT -8
The funny thing is it's really not effective practice or practical exercises, but almost designed with the expressed intent of instilling fear of failure from the strict penalty systems. You just summed up almost all military training.
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Post by dclxvi on Oct 27, 2013 22:01:29 GMT -8
You just summed up almost all military training. Nah. Shooting rifles all afternoon once every other month actually makes you better at shooting from muscle memory and familiarization. Tank gunnery occurs once every 6 months (usually more infrequently than that) and they make endless hullabaloo for what amounts to a full crew taking 10 shots downrange. It's the fear of derision from leadership and being skipped over for promotion (along with unit prestige) that leads table VII crews to perfect it to the most minute detail. The real practice aspect comes from the simulators, or in the case of drivers and loaders - hours of actual repetitive training. To illustrate what I mean about the ticky-tack-edness, you get fined 100 points (out of 1000) for each uniform violation during a gunnery.
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Post by cokepope on Oct 29, 2013 2:50:21 GMT -8
Ah the good ole nights of EC duty. You ever who give the guys who pissed you off the 0030 shift several nights in a row? Never had a guy punch the window. We did have one female instructor who was like 5ft1 with the shrill voice of a banshee who would stand in front of the door and scream at us every time she walked by (she was in dorm above us). I had the "honor" of being the War Skills & Education Monitor and Day Room Chief. Fun times... fun times.. Also, I think it was a requirement for Section Leaders to be complete assholes. Ours ripped into us when a guy missed 1 belt loop on our first day wearing blues. Ever do 10 min of pushups in the rain while wearing blues all the while being screamed at for one guy missing a belt loop? I don't recommend it. Still remember that fucker. TSgt. (now MSgt.) Innocenti (the irony was not lost on us). Yeah, I got along with the flight pretty well. But, anyone who was fucking over the flight by being dumb or sucked at EC duty during the day, I put them on the night shifts. They didn't make us push in blues because if they got dirty the flight looked like shit and so the TI would look bad. However, the first day we got to wear them we were made to take them off and change back into ABU's because the beds weren't made tight enough so we spent the day getting smoked.
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Post by dclxvi on Oct 29, 2013 5:05:04 GMT -8
Yeah, I got along with the flight pretty well. But, anyone who was fucking over the flight by being dumb or sucked at EC duty during the day, I put them on the night shifts. They didn't make us push in blues because if they got dirty the flight looked like shit and so the TI would look bad. However, the first day we got to wear them we were made to take them off and change back into ABU's because the beds weren't made tight enough so we spent the day getting smoked. I imagine you would have had a blast back in the days when we had to press our uniforms and shine our boots. ACUs and the tan boots were the greatest thing that ever happened to the private soldier.
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Post by snoggy on Oct 29, 2013 5:27:13 GMT -8
I disagree, shining boots and pressing uniforms used to be my pride and joy. Carries over into my current job, I have the shiniest boots of any BCAS paramedic on the street.
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Post by PoorRichard (AKA - The Guido) on Oct 29, 2013 6:27:21 GMT -8
I disagree, shining boots and pressing uniforms used to be my pride and joy. Carries over into my current job, I have the shiniest boots of any BCAS paramedic on the street. Have to agree with ya there Snoggy. Did the ACUs make life easier? Yes. I still hate the damn boots. I enjoyed and took pride in shining my boots. Still do even as a security guard. I can damn near shave in my doc martens.
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Post by dclxvi on Oct 29, 2013 15:35:12 GMT -8
That's what I think of your black boots.
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Post by Atron on Oct 29, 2013 16:38:57 GMT -8
I disagree, shining boots and pressing uniforms used to be my pride and joy. Carries over into my current job, I have the shiniest boots of any BCAS paramedic on the street. Have to agree with ya there Snoggy. Did the ACUs make life easier? Yes. I still hate the damn boots. I enjoyed and took pride in shining my boots. Still do even as a security guard. I can damn near shave in my doc martens. I got real good at shining my dress shoes. Right up until I saw my Instructor with those perma-shine shoes (some sort of hard, plasticy coating on em.) Bought a pair of those every six months and never looked back.
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Post by PoorRichard (AKA - The Guido) on Oct 29, 2013 17:52:39 GMT -8
Army issues the patent leather out of the chute. In 5 years I probably wore them 5 times.
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Post by Atron on Oct 29, 2013 19:50:05 GMT -8
Lucky you. We had to dress in blues every Monday and (Most)Fridays at my Squadron. On the plus side I got to rock a cardigan sweater on those days.
Yes, I am a dork. And no, you will not see pics of me in my sweater.
Pervs.
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Post by PoorRichard (AKA - The Guido) on Oct 29, 2013 20:33:49 GMT -8
Mondays were command maintenance days. Went to the motor pool with a bag that had a shitty not pressed uniform and my coveralls that way I didn't screw up my starchies. Oh and a pair of brush shined boots so I didn't scuff up my spits. I miss those days. God I love the smell of Jet A in the morning! Oh, and I still wear a commando sweater for work during winter.
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Post by Atron on Oct 30, 2013 15:16:04 GMT -8
That's because commando sweaters (and their variations) are comfy as hell and perfectly toasty without being too hot.
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