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Post by lupinscroll on Aug 23, 2013 21:58:26 GMT -8
Do you guys roll with the TxR Zerg during wed/fri ops or what is usually the plan? I'm not sure about staying with skywatch for several reasons and just want to know what this is like, never tried that with Skywatch.
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Post by Coltorl on Aug 24, 2013 11:21:52 GMT -8
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Post by lupinscroll on Aug 24, 2013 14:54:06 GMT -8
What? I should of not said TxR Zerg but I just meant the main group of people, horrible use of the word.
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Post by Coltorl on Aug 24, 2013 15:20:51 GMT -8
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Post by Hereticus on Aug 24, 2013 20:25:26 GMT -8
I can't speak to the last 3 weeks because I lost interest in going to ops nights but near as I've figured out the Tankers are still showing up to ops night, we just don't pull tanks because PO prefers practical assets.
Tanks are 400+ Resources, with a cap at 750, we can maybe pull 2 tanks per player with a 10-15 minute wait between pulls when we're low on resources, of which it all depends on how much territory our empire controls on that specific continent.
Tech-Plants are to be considered as well seeing we can't pull MBT's without a Tech Plants, though we can live without MBT's, a MBT is the figurehead of a Armor Division and the team play of driver/gunner in a MBT is exciting for tankers.
Moral of the story is no, Tanks aren't pulled, maintained, run-with, or otherwise strategically used during ops because it's impractical to do all of that when the Platoon will just be redeploying instantly across the continent, Tanks end up as a one-trick pony.
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Post by Hereticus on Aug 24, 2013 20:31:43 GMT -8
Rarely on Ops nights, mostly on off nights, I run a all Tanks squad with friends within the Outfit and outside the Outfit over Skype, we usually get 2 squads worth of tanks going and we'll just roll around for hours like this conducting our own mini-ops.
There is no set-in-stone schedule for this we kind of do it on a whim but if you see me online and I'm not in a TXR Squad/Platoon then I'm more then likely running a Tank Squad. If your interested in that then don't be afraid to whisper me for a squad invite.
My Tank Squads don't bother with allied zergs or care about alerts/facility objectives, our only goal whatsoever is to find a large enemy armor columns and go zerg hunting with Prowlers, Tank farming by any other name. Disclaimer: We don't run Infantry or Air assets, if you wan't that stick with the main platoon, my squad is Tanks w/ Engineers only.
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Post by snoggy on Aug 24, 2013 21:15:56 GMT -8
No one really uses special squads anymore. No spec ops, no tanks.. air wing only occurs because we typically fly with the TTA people but even then, a lot have been just hanging with the TXR group.
Op nights are run more like TRG, everyone in one channel just.. doing what the PL says.
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Post by Hereticus on Sept 1, 2013 16:52:02 GMT -8
Pretty much what snoggy said.
Anything truly reflecting any of the Divisions Ops has to be either formally organized by you or a Division Officer outside of the Outfit Wed/Friday Ops.
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Post by italktowallss on Sept 1, 2013 17:15:46 GMT -8
thats the whole reason why i dont play during ops. when takill is on ill get on and we will run a 2 man prowler pack.
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Post by snoggy on Sept 2, 2013 0:08:05 GMT -8
Ideally we'd drop the farce of gal-drops and 10-second redeploys... in favor of sticking to our guns and battling it out along a certain front.
But that sort of thing is going to have to occur at a much higher level, and require commitment of high commandy types to realize that not everyone wants to play infantry all day... and to remember what TXR used to do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 9:14:15 GMT -8
Farce? That is a peculiar word for the actions we have been doing.
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Post by Talron on Sept 2, 2013 11:19:48 GMT -8
Snoggy I'm truly perplexed at your attitude and use of the word "farce" perhaps you want to elaborate on how you think galaxy drops are a waste of time during Wednesday and Friday Nights Operations?
Co-orientated galaxy drops with a full platoon against the lattice system have been working extremely well for TXR. I do not even have to explain myself in detail about the effectiveness of this strategy. We have clutched saved and pushed on bases that should never have been able to be captured/ re-secured because of TXR'S dedication and quick response of loading 48 guys into 4 galaxies in under 60 seconds and all crashing on the point simultaneously.
If you are not happy with how TXR has been running ops as of late then go find another outfit that will tolerate to your ideology. Perhaps if you ran with the main platoon for a night and ditched your liberator you would be able to witness the growth and effectiveness TXR has been having the last several months during Wednesday and Friday Operations.
I have bent over back to compensate for you and the air wing to be organized and run by TTA during Wednesday and Friday Ops so you CAN continue to play the game in the sky IF YOU WISH TO.
Or if you think you can do a better job running a platoon Snoggy you go ahead and step up and lead it. Not once have I ever seen you take a leadership role within TXR yet you defiantly love to speak your mind into how we are doing things wrong and what you do not like about the outfit.
This is the same thing for Prowler Pack; sometimes I see Hereticus and 3-4 guys in the Prowler Pack channel doing their own thing on teamspeak from the main platoon during ops night. That's fine, if you can’t honestly stand to play infantry and suck at it then go in a tank.
TXR is an Infantry based outfit with extensions of air and tank. You will not able to change the genetic makeup of that. This game is a FPS, and many love to play infantry FIRST.
Whatever situation arises, TXR members adapt to the battle and that is why TXR is a top premier outfit on Connery.
The battlefield for this game is always changing and it's the outfit/platoon leader responsibility that is able to assess the fight and adapt properly to the situation first etc. (pull the required strikers/prowlers harassers, mossy's.)
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Post by Pencil Stick on Sept 2, 2013 11:31:00 GMT -8
Our policy in this outfit in general has always been to allow anyone to step up and do something. If you think there's something you'd rather be doing, or think there's something we should do differently, take the reins and do it. Lead a platoon the way you want to.
But you have to step up. If all you've got to bring to our table is talking about how you don't go to ops in one breath, then bitching about how they're run in the next, you've done fuck all to be constructive and fix the problems you moan about. I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for anyone unwilling to try and solve their own problems.
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Post by Hereticus on Sept 2, 2013 13:46:19 GMT -8
I think Pencil said it the best.
Rolling as a Infantry ball-of-doom rapid-responding in 15 seconds or less without a doubt is the winning strategy, It saves bases, it conquers facilities, it gets the job done. The Outfit wins, we get publicity as #1 TR for Connery, bragging rights, and of course everyone wants to join the winning team - Recruitment!
2 nights a week of doing the redeploy infantry teams for rapid-response for 2-4 hours on average isn't to big of a deal when we're running Squads or Platoons 24/7 a week. If you want Division oriented content then run a separate squad like I do for Tanks, I know Skywatch does the same.
Back to the topic of my Tankers though... I'll get a formal schedule going for strictly speaking "Prowler-Ops" or we'll a Prowler enthusiast who can. I've been pretty busy lately so I have a weird schedule of when I'm on or not, but we'll figure it out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 15:13:20 GMT -8
I think a few people here want what they want when they want it and any other opinions are "tolerated" but belittled. We have enough a history with this to know who is willing to work at new things and who is going to drag feet, complain, tear down and in short be a PITA.
I love working with those who are willing to work at things. I think there is room aplenty for folks who are willing to work together here in the TxR.
Given the fact that so many people put in so much work to build things up rather than being a PITA I think TxR is probably not a great fit for those who want to take that stance. That is the polite phrasing for that sentiment.
Act accordingly.
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